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4月12日,国家卫计委召开月度例行发布会,本次会议上来自甘肃省的卫计委主任刘维忠介绍了甘肃省中医特色医改以及健康促进模式改革的相关内容。 专门在月度例行发布会上介绍某个省份的医改成绩,并不多见。有分析人士认为,这意味着国家卫计委对甘肃一些医改经验的认可。但是医疗圈围绕其减少病人、“食疗”“偏方”等治病、西药中用、中医药100%报销等做法提出了许多争议。 争议一:

4月12日,国家卫计委召开月度例行发布会,本次会议上来自甘肃省的卫计委主任刘维忠介绍了甘肃省中医特色医改以及健康促进模式改革的相关内容。


专门在月度例行发布会上介绍某个省份的医改成绩,并不多见。有分析人士认为,这意味着国家卫计委对甘肃一些医改经验的认可。但是医疗圈围绕其减少病人、“食疗”“偏方”等治病、西药中用、中医药100%报销等做法提出了许多争议。

争议一:甘肃医改思路上突出减少病人的目标

特色一是甘肃医改思路上突出减少病人的目标,把医改拓展到健康促进模式的改革,变改医院为改健康。

“怎么才能减少病人呢?我们采取了五条措施:一个是大病调查和干预。从2013年开始,每年选择群众患病人数多、看病负担重的五种疾病,对患病原因和干预方法组织专家调查一年,第二年在全社会发动老百姓干预这五种病。比如第一年干预了五种病,糖尿病高血压、高血脂、肾病、白血病,这五种病甘肃有1300多万人患病,这1300多万人患病人群解决了,“看病难”就解决了。比如说白血病。我们把这个写到农村“健康文化墙”上,再过两年甘肃白血病就少了,因为一个白血病每年要花费20多万,所以白血病少了,甘肃“看病难、看病贵”也缓解了一些。第二个是疾病的排序。第三个是推广“村级三件事”,也是减少病人的一个方法。第一件事,我们用“一病一墙”的方式,比如糖尿病一面墙,我们发动农民种苦荞麦,多数糖尿病人吃了血糖就好了,用食疗的方法解决慢性病。第三件事,我们通过招标,花了25元钱,给农民每户发了一个“保健箱”,“保健箱”里有一个盐袋子、有一个刮痧板、拔火罐器、体温表,给400多万农户一户发了一个,挨家挨户培训。就一个盐袋子,农民把盐炒热里面加一些茴香、花椒叶治13种病,比如颈椎病、甲状腺结节、咳嗽、咽炎、腰椎间盘脱出、肩周炎、关节炎、胃疼等等,特别是治老年的前列腺肥大效果明显。第四是健康教育进家庭。我们在市县电视台免费播放健康养生节目,提高农民的健康素养,健康教育应该是医疗卫生最高境界。第五是健康促进模式的改革。”

医护人员对其中的许多内容提出了质疑:
一、举例把白血病写到农村“健康文化墙”上,告诉普通大众白血病治疗花费贵,就能减少疾病的发病率么?减少的是发病率还是治疗率?
二、举例发动农民种苦荞麦治疗糖尿病:但是现代医学中并没有用苦荞麦控制糖尿病的证据,没有证据的治疗方法如何写进治疗指南,如何推广,会有多少人相信?
三、“盐袋子”可以治疗13种疾病,明显没有科学依据。
四、刘主任一直宣称的省钱医改模式,花钱其实并不少。据历年中国卫生统计年鉴,从2008年到2013年(2008年刘维忠任甘肃卫生厅厅长,2009年新医改开始),不论是门诊还是住院,甘肃病人人均医疗费用的增速都超过了全国平均增速,从全国水平的不到60%到如今的70%左右,之所以一直宣称“甘肃省中医特色医改实现看病费用全国最低”,无非是因为此前基数太低而已。


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争议二、黄花菜煮成水治抑郁症

发布会上,刘维忠介绍了甘肃医改的特色——用最简单的方法解决最基础的问题,用尽可能少的费用维护居民健康,走中医特色的医改道路时,不忘推广“食疗”“偏方”等治病方法。他再次提及,舟曲泥石流时,用两吨黄花菜煮水,治好了灾民的抑郁症。

“舟曲泥石流的时候,许多人由于恐惧,失落,睡不着觉,患了抑郁症。后来北京一个中医发了一个方子,很简单,用黄花菜煮成水治抑郁症就没有问题,我调了两吨黄花菜,用了12口大锅熬黄花菜,一个人一个纸杯子,黄花菜一毛钱,纸杯子一毛钱,两毛钱,七千个单子,一人花了1.4元钱,所有的抑郁症都没有了。舟曲泥石流期间环境温度特别高,每天泥里冒出的气臭的不行,我就带领大夫干一件事,拿铁锨把冒气的地方压住撒了漂白粉。舟曲当时第一任务是防疫。有一个甘肃的中医发了一个方子,是黄豆、苍术熬成水再撒滑石粉就好了,我说这个便宜,就用12口大铁锅,熬黄豆、苍术水,实际药是一毛钱,纸杯子一毛钱,第四天这个就问题就解决了。”

许多医生评该观点没有科学依据,关于这点争议,4月12日晚,@甘肃刘维忠 在其微博回复到:《养生论》记载“合欢解忿,萱草忘忧”,是指食用这两味药膳能让人欢乐、解除忧烦。

中医很神奇,但我们并不能否认其中也有许多愚昧的地方,我们不能一味地相信。虽然屠呦呦能从青蒿里提取出抗疟疾的良药造福人类,但是屠老用试验、证据证明了青蒿素治疗疟疾的有效性。目前没有证据证明黄花菜抗抑郁有效。医学是严谨的,不能谁官大谁说了算,医学需要有一个科学的实证过程,要经得起现代医学的临床试验,要能用具体的数据来说话,不然医生如何有信心治疗病人,如何跟病人解释?

争议三、西药中用

在凤凰卫视记者询问,治疗肿瘤方面,甘肃有什么样的先进经验时,刘主任的回答却是:甘肃对肿瘤的治疗采取了一个新的方法,搞西药中用的研究,用中医辨症的指导西药用药。比如头孢霉素,对湿热的病人80%有效,对虚寒怕冷的病人20%以下有效。比如说不发热的病人用抗菌素没有用。我们把西药变成中药的化学药,用中医辨症利用来指导西医用药。 

这个问题真心没啥说的了,明明记者问的是肿瘤治疗,可是刘维忠主任回答的举例却是抗生素治疗中的西药中用。

争议四、中医药100%报销

中国青年报题为《傲慢与偏见”都是对中医药的伤害》的评论文章指出:据刘维忠介绍,甘肃医改的思路突出“减少病人”的目 标,医改措施均围绕此目标展开。为了引导甘肃城乡居民使用中医药,甘肃的中医药实现了100%报销。

并附评论:使用什么药物应由病情而定,而不是以医院的收益为取舍。无论中医药100%报销能否“避免患者不愿意出院”,是否出院不但取决于患者的意愿,更应遵从医生的诊疗方案。

国家卫计委在例行发布会上推介甘肃特色的医改经验,无疑是对甘肃医改的极大肯定。无论是从2013年开始大病调查和干预,还是在疾病谱的基 础上开展流行病学调查,甘肃卫计委都付出了积极努力,取得了良好效果。然而,“中医药实现100%报销”这个小小插曲,却给人留下了争议的空间。扭转传统 医学日渐式微的现状,需要潜心研究,由此不仅应摒弃妄自菲薄,而且应避免夜郎自大。对中医药文化而言,任何“傲慢与偏见”都意味着是一种伤害。

但是也有许多网友和医生为刘维忠主任点赞:

@中医纪元:黄花菜又名萱草,能宣畅气血,对突然发生的忧郁悲伤的情绪的确有缓解作用。对久郁成疾的重症抑郁症患者则可能会药力不及。大家都在嘲笑@甘肃刘维忠 厅长,学中医的人不应该也掺和其中。学了五年或者更长时间的中医,连这个都不理解,才应该被嘲笑。

@月下飞舟:@甘肃刘维忠 非常支持刘主任的政策,他的理念是好的,出发点是好的,两千多年的中医传承了这么久,就有他存在的道理。现在能有这样的领导已经很难了,他一心想着用最便宜的钱给大家治病

@avenuetree:地震后的急性应激性心理障碍,既然黄花菜在汶川地震后确有作用,就该承认它的药效,跟进研究,而不是咋咋巫术,下台什么的。国内地震也算不少,比对其他地方地震后,灾民的心理恢复速度,质量,完成西医所谓的询证,并不是难事,只是有些人故意掩面不视罢了。无怪乎国内一天到晚抄袭,出不了新药。

@蓝医生_:微博有关注刘厅长,也试过他的方子,效果不错。大家可以关注他。

@一医一世界:反中医的潮流又很高涨,厅长就只有自己走上一线。他自己总结中医验方,推荐位于社区的中医,指导网友去找某个医生看病。这就好比刘志军在高铁试运行时坐在车头上一样,“出事故,我先死”,道理是一样的,别忘了,当年大家都在怎么黑高铁啊。在今天的黑中医的潮流面前,这么做还是很大勇气的。不信,大家看看有多少人在骂他啊,他每一条微博点赞的都不够骂他的一个零头。承受这么大的骂声不是一件容易的事情。

刘维忠,1957年3月出生,甘肃宁县人,研究生学历,1981年4月入党,1982年参加工作,现任甘肃省卫计委主任。

2011年10月16日,甘肃省卫生厅官网刊登其署名文章,推广“食疗吃猪蹄”、“黄花菜熬水”等疗法,引发争议。

2012年5月23日,针对网友对甘肃省卫生厅官网报道的41名医务人员经过9天培训打通任督二脉一事的质疑,刘维忠在其微博上回应称,打通任督二脉并非武功绝学。同年6月,甘肃省卫生厅官网一篇文章称,刘维忠4月出席培训班开班仪式时提倡“在医院开展真气运行治疗”。

据媒体报道,刘维忠主任今年年底即将退休,他所推行的甘肃医改,究竟是医学的进步还是倒退,我们拭目以待,也欢迎您评论给我们!

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    2016-04-16 tidiq
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    2016-04-15 针情依灸

    验方即偏方、单方、秘方、土方。来源主要是历代医家经验的积累和家族内部流传,前者主要在民间流传能被大多数人所知,后者往往是代代单传、经久不衰的。独具特色的验方以其药源易得、使用方便、价格低廉、疗效显著、易学易用易推广的特点,历代流传不衰。这些灿若星河的验方虽多来自民间,但无一不闪烁着我国劳动人民的智慧结晶,验方虽然没有被正式的药物或医学典籍收载,治病的道理有些?能用“科学”理论来解释,但在一些正规医院医治无效或者治疗费用较高,缺医无药的时候选择验方确实有着它不可替代的作用。

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    2016-04-15 1dea4de7m79(暂无匿称)

    很好,

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    2016-04-15 1de3b290m83(暂无匿称)

    做研究

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    2016-04-15 青争

    想当然!乌烟瘴气!

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    2016-04-15 tjzge

    应调到干部保健局推广

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    2016-04-15 hbjxgrp1213

    甘肃在治疗未病方面有些借鉴之处,全国推广还得因地制宜。医改是综合因素,分级诊疗搞好了,基层一些辅助检查和药品档次提高了,基层医就会见成效,治未病可见成效。

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    还是好好搞分诊靠谱,医疗资源下沉。

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    学习了长知识了

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