对实习、规培生“小家子气”说明了什么?

2016-04-20 吴帅 华医网

导  语:近日,关于年收入三个亿的医院,实习生和规培生不能使用饮水机一事,引起广泛关注。 事件发酵后,此医院迅速做出回应,某相关负责人表示: 1、饮水机上纸条已经取下,实习生和规培生可以喝水了; 2、该负责人认为附属医院科室此举非常不妥; 3、医科大学领导将于近两天亲赴医院,与实习生及规培生座谈,进一步了解大家的困惑和困难; 4、承诺

导  语:近日,关于年收入三个亿的医院,实习生和规培生不能使用饮水机一事,引起广泛关注。

事件发酵后,此医院迅速做出回应,某相关负责人表示:

1、饮水机上纸条已经取下,实习生和规培生可以喝水了;

2、该负责人认为附属医院科室此举非常不妥;

3、医科大学领导将于近两天亲赴医院,与实习生及规培生座谈,进一步了解大家的困惑和困难;

4、承诺绝不会因此对学生另眼相待。 

一口水为何会伤害到他们?

表面看起来,只是一口水的问题,但却引起了医生们的不满意,将这个事件曝光给媒体记者,引起社会公愤,最后变成一个充满负面色彩的公共事件。管理者不得不狼狈不堪的出来“灭火”,把这张充满歧视性色彩的纸条取下,并且宣布,现在大家可以喝同一口水了。

尽管,该负责人认为医院科室此举非常不妥。但不妥当在哪里?这里却没有任何解释,看起来更像是一种迫于舆论压力的表态。

年收入三个亿的医院,却吝啬到科室不给实习、规培及进修医生喝自己的水,这是一种小家子气。

一个科室能够有多少来实习、学习的医生,一天又能够喝多少水?就算年轻人多喝一点水,这又能花多少钱?你要知道,这些医生们不仅仅是来学习的,同样干活打杂,把最脏最累最枯燥的体力活都承包了,为科室做出贡献,何必要如此斤斤计较?

科室作为一个公共地带,相信没有科室主任的同意,没有任何人敢贴出这种针对一个群体的标签。当这样内容的纸条贴了出来,科室的医护者们也没有人站出来公开反对,就意味着科室医生们是同意这个公开契约的。正是这种集体一致的排外做法,才激起了外来医者们的反感情绪,用曝光这种反击行为,来表达自己的态度及立场——为什么那么小气?为什么不能喝同样的水?

医院负责人承诺,绝不会因此对学生另眼相待。但事实上,这种做法已经是在对学生们另眼相待了,道歉声在哪里呢?

我相信学生们绝不至于自己喝不起水,但为什么大家会对这种行为如此反感呢?缺乏身份认同感,受到歧视是一大原因。通过一口饮水机的水,就将医生们分成三六九等,彰显特权的过程,也是一种对别人权利和尊严打压伤害的过程,但始作俑者明显忽略了这一点。
连水都不舍得让学生喝的老师肯教真本事?
表面上是对喝水问题不满意,其实是对科室管理不满意,更是对师生关系的不满意。

师者,传道授业解惑也。这个道是放在第一位的,最后才是技术问题。道是什么?是一种礼仪,没有尊重没有公平彰显不出这种礼仪。想一想,表面上看是老师与学生的关系,但老师为何不让学生们喝自己家里的水?这种做法已经是对师生关系的破坏。

一个老师,如果在一口水的态度上都如此吝啬小气,你相信他们会把自己的真本事解囊相教给学生?换一句话说,如果平时老师们给予了学生足够的尊重和帮助,让他们学习到了需要学习的内容,在这种感恩之情的基础上,学生们怎么可能会撕破脸皮去找媒体记者投诉,让自己的老师下不了台,尴尬万分?

需要警惕的是,在当下阶段,一种规培者的集体失望情绪比比皆是。

有过来人吐槽,多数大医院医疗任务繁重,没有精力或并不重视规培生的培训和教育。内科学员是收病人写病历,办不完的入院和出院病历,粘贴不完的化验单;外科学员更是没有做一助和主刀的机会,一个科拉钩三个月,再换另外一个科继续拉钩,这样即使培训了3年,将来到自己负责单独管床,单独上手术时还是没有经验,不能胜任。

广东省中医院神经内科主任医师郭建文是第一批住院医师规培的教学老师,最多时,院里有好几百个规培生。但2014年,他们刚刚接到任务时也是一片茫然,“没有教材、没有细则、没有考核标准,大家都不知道如何做。”除此外,“待遇差,学不到东西”。这是他最近在规培学员座谈会上,听到年轻医生最多的抱怨。

根据知名妇产科医生龚晓明观察到的一个普遍现象:在教学医院里面,专家是绝对权威,所有门诊是专家看,手术是专家主刀做,专家们不敢(怕出事,怕手术时间长),也不愿(怕失去地位,也有灰色收入方面的问题)放手给住院医师做。我们对科研SCI有考核,唯独对教学没有量化考核,最终导致在教学医院里大多教学流于形式。

当规培生沦为廉价劳动力,学习不到本领,这种反感和不满情绪的长期积压,就导致像一口水这样的小问题,也可能会演变为一个矛盾对立的新闻事件。

老师和学生同样需要反思   

在一个成功规培过程中,带教老师要履行自己的本分,学生们也要履行自己的本分,二者缺一不可,相辅相成。

但在这种医者群体对规培不满的吐槽中,听到最多的,是学生们应该反思调整自己,极少听到有要求带教者反思带教责任的声音。培训质量出了状况和问题,在问题归因上,管理者也总是爱习惯性地将矛头指向学生,认为现在的学生们吃不了苦受不了累,学习努力程度不够。但这真的一定是问题的全部吗?

或者说,学生们需要反思,难道带教老师们就不需要反思调整?当规培医生们牺牲自己最宝贵的光阴,延迟了数年来参加培训学习,做出一个对病人对社会更负责任的牺牲。如果在这个过程中,带教者们偏离了师道,吝啬小气对待学生,让学生们耗费了宝贵光阴却一无所获,这种关系将遭受到破坏,难免衍生出不和谐的现象。

庆幸的是,这所医学院的管理者很敏锐地捕捉到这背后的问题,所以才提出,将亲赴医院,与实习规培生座谈,进一步了解大家的困惑和困难。

但不管如何,因为一个喝水的问题,引起这样的轩然风波,已经伤害了师生的关系。这种美好感情的破坏,不是撕掉一张纸条,就可以在短时间内修复好的。

只希望这样的反面案例能够激起更多老师们的责任感,能够尊重带教工作,公平对待每一个来进修学习的医生们,放下那种三六九等的有色眼镜,为社会培育出更多合格的医生。我更相信,绝大多数愿意牺牲多年宝贵光阴参加规培,在医路上坚持到底的年轻人们是愿意真心学习东西的,关键是老师愿不愿意真心教而已。

对一口水的质疑,其实是对老师们慷慨程度和真心施教的怀疑。

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    2016-04-20 文医生

    不知为何如此对待实习生

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    2016-04-20 wei834766788

    住院医规培苦呀

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    2016-04-20 wei834766788

    流于形式罢了!!

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    2016-04-20 dr_hannibal666

    太寒心了

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    都是形式,没有人办实事,这一茬规陪生肯定会做了制度的牺牲品的!

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